Slagging people off is not a good way to get your point across

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I logged into my blog email today to find this little cherub in there.

Pro-choice satanic feminists molest and assault a group of peaceful pro-life men

This is a post written by Matt Walsh. Despite the fact that the title of this blog alone makes me crazy you should check out his stuff.  Some things I agree with him on, others not so much, but he does have an interesting point of view. Mostly, I find him logical and well thought out but not so much when he rants about Obama Care or abortion.

Clearly this post is about abortion. Well he thinks it is anyway. With a title like that it seems a bit more like slander used as an attempt to push his “pro-life”/anti-abortion agenda. 

My position on abortion is quite complex but I’m not going to go into what it is or why it is so because it is totally irrelevant to his post. His post, according to his title, is about a group of people who behaved terribly towards another group of people. And they did behave terribly. What they did was wrong and I am in no way excusing this behaviour in this post.

But…whether or not abortion is OK has nothing; let me repeat, nothing, to do with the behaviour of those for and against it. Are you seriously trying to tell me that whether or not I have the right to have an embryo vacuumed out of my uterus should be down to the poor behaviour  of a bunch of fanaticals? I certainly hope not.

And if you don’t agree with me then perhaps you can ask the Catholic priests if they should all be judged because some of them are paedophiles. Or you could ask people of the Muslim faith if they should all be judged as terrorists because some of them are. Or we could just decide that because of those last two examples that religion is bad altogether and then use it as justification that religion itself simply shouldn’t exist. How’s that for freedom. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

Because that’s what this post sounds like to me: a nice big fat rant that abortion shouldn’t exist because there are a bunch of crazies out there going down a fanatical path. And that anyone pro-choice fits the mold. How ridiculous.

Let’s go with that though. Let’s go with the crazies on the fanatical path.

A quick google search tells me that anti abortion violence is SO COMMON there is even a Wikipedia page about it. And I quote:

Incidents of violence have included destruction of property, in the form of vandalism; crimes against people, including kidnappingstalkingassaultattempted murder, and murder; and crimes affecting both people and property, including arson and bombings.

Murder? WTF? That sounds pretty crazy and fanatical to me. So hang on a minute. If the crazy behaviour of a particular group of fanaticals is dictating whether or not we should be for or against something then this now tells me that we should be against whatever this group is banging on about. Which in this case is abortion is bad. So based on their behaviour we should all now be pro-choice. Are you with me?

Obviously not as this argument is completely flawed. We have fanatics on both sides, like you do with everything. Duh. So that whole let’s just be against what the fanatics are for approach doesn’t help us.

We know what the truth is here and that is that these crazy incidences of murder and the like are no more a representation of everyone who is pro-life than these “feminists” in Argentina are an indication of all who are pro-choice. So what we are left with is simply our own moral judgement on the issue. And that is as it should be.

I don’t care which side of the abortion fence you sit on. In fact, it’s none of my damn business. But if you want to convince me of your position then don’t go around slagging people off in order to do it. Or pretending the crazies are the centre of the issue. They’re not and we all know that. Just give me the facts about the subject, throw me a persuasive argument or two, you know the ones about actual abortion and when life begins and stuff, and I’ll do the rest for myself. In my own brain. Without letting the fanatical behaviour of someone else have anything to do with my decision.

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25 thoughts on “Slagging people off is not a good way to get your point across

  1. Well written mummy flying solo! I couldn’t agree with you more … even though I favour pro-life I think the behaviour of some of these fanatical pro-life people is atrocious. They have even murdered people. I mean how does that equate? And I do not judge anyone who has chosen the abortion way either. It certainly IS a complex issue!

    • Yeah how’s that. They’ll murder someone for a difference of opinion buy get all crazy about the babies. It’s just plain weird. Fanatics in general, no matter what the topic, are just plain weird. Glad you enjoyed the post. I enjoyed writing this one. 🙂

  2. Thanks Rach. I am about as pro-choice as they get, and I know we’ve had some disagreements in the past, so I was a little trepidatious to read this post. But I think you totally hit the nail on the head with this one!

    TBH I’ve had a few niggling concerns with some of the language on the blog fellow’s blog – he comes across as very judgey sometimes and very anti-feminist. I always start to hammer out an angry response, delete it, craft a more measured response, delete that, and decide to just leave it.

    • Thanks Tegs! 🙂 Yeah Matt has some interesting views on things. It is his blog though so he should be able to clearly state his opinion without caring what anyone else things. So of course that is going to come across as judgy. Even those of us who say we don’t judge, do when we are passionately stating a position. I don’t think he is against feminism in the true sense of the word (equal pay yada yada) but in perhaps the more radical sense and I’d argue that not all women agree with the more radical sense either. Anyway, like I said, some things I like, other stuff not so much. I’ve commented on his posts a number of times and he NEVER replies which annoys me so I now think, why bother?

  3. I’m so happy to read this! I remember seeing that blog post pop up in my Reader a couple of days ago and chose not to read it as I was pretty sure that the underlying post would be on abortion and not on the actual incident. Great post, I agree with you wholeheartedly.

  4. I think it’s crazy how people condone their violence and horrible actions because it is in the name of something. Look at the million of deaths in the name of religion. I don’t care what you believe in, but do you really think if there is a higher power they would want you killing innocent women and children simply because they do not believe in said higher power? In this life the only person we are responsible for is ourselves. Live your life how you see fit, and understand that while you can educate and try to enlighten others, it is their choice how they decide to live their lives.

  5. Well. That was a bizarre thing that happened! Who in their right mind would behave as described in his post? I wouldn’t. My daughters better not. I will have failed. Anyhow–on a lighter note–we drove past a billboard the other day. “A heartbeat begins 18 days after conception…”

    “Mom, what’s conception?” Boy, oh, boy. Are we getting close to “the talk” or what? (And I had to explain what abortion was because obviously that was on the sign too.)

  6. It’s the utter hypocrisy that gets me every time. Those same die-hards who are adamant that the life of the unborn embryo and that of the 90 year old terminally ill and in chronic pain senior must be protected at all costs; yet, they are all for the death sentence as an acceptable punishment for crime. Yes, let’s protect life when, and only when, it’s the life that we deem valuable.

    So let me get this straight: Abortion = Bad, Euthanasia = Bad, Death Sentence for convicts = A-OK!

    Bunch of hypocrites, the lot of them.

  7. I love that you wrote about this. I am personally pro-life, but shy away from telling my views on it. All I can say is that I am completely turned off by fanatics that kill and use hatred to change peoples minds about anything. I really feel that love, compassion, education, and kindness are the only way others will listen to your views or opinions. I wish there was more attention on people who think this way, but unfortunately the fanatics are what sell the news.
    Great post!

    • Thanks 🙂 Yes it’s always the crazy factions that get the attention and make everyone else look bad. I love your comment about love, kindness and education being the only way for people to change their minds on something. I totally agree. 🙂

  8. The outliers always ruin it for those who are legit….in any group of people. I like Walsh’s blog too, most of the time, and it is surprising to me that he would write something so ugly and judgmental without the valid points he usually makes. I completely agree with you. That post had nothing to do with abortion but was rather about 2 crazy groups of people who were so filled with anger that I doubt they even knew what they were fighting for anymore. not an effective way to make a point.

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